Archive for September, 2008

One more tip on DOD or AFM

Thursday, September 25th, 2008

I just received an email from the guy who put me on the right path to figure what went wrong with my 5.3 DOD engine.  He has one additional solution:  many of the late Gen IV engine oil pans have the correct oil pressure regulator built in.   For example, he’s putting a 5.3 in an Advanced Design Chevy pickup (those were the 1947-55 models) and has found that a 2007 Tahoe oil pan fits and has the regulator.

 By the way, if you have any interest in updating those early pickups, this fellow, Robert Hertz, sells a body mount kit that parks the early sheet metal on an S-10 chassis, giving you instant power steering, disc brakes and other modern conveniences.

Robert’s web site is :  www.AD-Engineering.com

New brackets for LS Chevy engine swaps

Saturday, September 20th, 2008

Just in case you didn’t see our announcement over on our regular web page, we’ve just introduced a front accessory drive bracket for the driver’s side of LS1, LS2 and all the other Gen III and Gen IV Chevrolet engines.

It’s just one more way we’re trying to make your LS engine swap Kwik and easy.

This new bracket kit mounts the alternator and power steering pump in a position similar to the Corvette LS engine–alternator up top with the PS pump below.

We think this will be especially popular with anyone trying to use an F-body engine (Camaro, TransAm, plus GTO) in some early chassis.  Or anyone using a 5.3 or 6.0 truck/SUV engine and has a hood clearance issue with the high-mount alternator.

 It makes a perfect companion to the air conditioning compressor bracket we introduced some time back.

To see pictures, CAD drawings, installation instructions (or the “Buy it now” button if you’re so inclined) just click on this link:

http://kwikperf.com/lsx_alt_ps.html

Both bracket kits are available to match any of the three GM crank pulley positions.  If you want to see how to figure out which pulley you have, just click on this link:

http://kwikperf.com/pdf/kwik_tips_id_lsx_front_drive.pdf

DOD killed my engine swap and I’m pi**ed off!

Thursday, September 18th, 2008

Last time I told you about my displacement-on-demand (DOD) engine and how I killed three lifters.  And how my LS/BMW engine swap project sat for two months while I figured out what happened.  So, now it’s time to tell you how I fixed the problem.

 When one cylinder went dead I followed the usual diagnostic procedures.  Find the dead cylinder.  Number 1 cylinder.  Does that cylinder have spark?  Yes.  Does it have fuel?  Yes.  Does it have compression?  No.  Hmmmm.  Number 1 cylinder is a DOD cylinder.  Maybe the DOD system is malfunctioning.  Can we shut off the whole DOD system?  Let’s find the solenoid valve wires and unhook them and see what happens.  Hmmmm.  Can’t find the wires in the harness.  Can’t find a connector at the back of the valley cover.

More research.

Turns out some SUV’s have all the DOD mechanism in place but it’s non-functional.  No wires.  No program in the ECM.  Why?  The short wheelbase Envoy and Trailblazer didn’t have enough room for the muffler GM thought was necessary to keep owners from noticing when the engine would cycle back and forth between four and eight cylinders. 

My engine was taken from a short wheelbase Envoy so the DOD was already be dis-engaged.  That’s when I leaned about the special oil pressure regulator and its relationship to the solenoid valves (see previous post).

If I had known all this stuff when I first bought my engine I could have prevented all these problems with one simple step:  Install a valley cover from a Gen IV, non-DOD engine.  Turns out all Gen IV engine blocks have the special oil ports that go from the valley area down to the lifter bores.  Non-DOD valley covers have no oil feed and of course, no solenoid valves.  Plus, they simply block off these lifter ports with O-rings. 

I found a valley cover from an LS2 Corvette but only after I had already killed the lifters.  Since I had to replace lifters on both banks, I pulled the heads and replaced all the lifters with conventional LS lifters.  This requires the appropriate lifter guides as well.

If you aren’t familar with LS roller lifters, you may not understand the role of lifter guides.  They are a rectangular plastic piece with holes for four lifters or two cylinder’s worth.  The bores into which the lifters fit have a shape that keeps the roller on the lifter lined up with the cam lobe.  The DOD guides have a unique shape for the DOD lifters to keep you from interchanging with the non-DOD lifters.

By the way, I’ve been told that all LS lifters, (non-DOD versions) are the same.  Mine came from a guy who buys warranty engines and sells the good internal parts.

My engine swap project is back on track.  Or, I should say, back on the road.  It’s running on eight cylinders.  All the time.  Like a real engine should. 

Does that mean you should avoid DOD engines?  No.  If you follow a few tips.

 1.  If you can use the donor oil pan and the DOD is active, it doesn’t complicate wiring in an engine swap because it’s pretty much self-contained between the ECM and the engine.  And you should pick up a few miles per gallon.

2.  If you need to swap oil pans, then I would recommend you also swap the valley cover and forget DOD.  The lifters will be fine if they don’t get any extra oil flow.

3.  If you want to install an aftermarket cam, then replace the DOD lifters and guides with conventional pieces.  Just be sure that the number of teeth on the reluctor match your ECM.

4.  If you need to swap oil pans and you really want to keep the DOD feature, you might figure out a way to adapt the DOD oil pressure regulator into the new pan.  Not a challenge I want but if you decide to try it, let me know the results.

In summary, I believe the DOD or AFM engines are good candidates for engine swaps for one main reason:  Price.  The demand is still low.  Many engine swappers will be afraid of them, keeping demand low.  Supply is going up as more vehicles are wrecked.  That means prices will stay low.

I gave $1500 for an all-aluminum, 300 horse, 5.3 with 17,000 miles.  Plus $500 for a matching 4L60e transmission.  Even after replacing lifters and the valley cover, even after replacing the tall SUV intake with an LS2 intake and water pump, I still have less invested than a Camaro or Corvette version.  And those would likely be much higher miles.

So I say, “DOD may have killed my engine swap (temporarily) and I was pi**ed off (also temporarily) but now all is forgiven.” 

Next time I’ll give you some ways to identify DOD or AFM engines.

What to do about Displacement on Demand (DOD or now, AFM)

Tuesday, September 16th, 2008

The LS family of engines produce an amazing amount of horsepower for a given size.  And they also generally get good fuel economy if driven conservatively.  (Your mileage may vary Mr. Leadfoot). That means they are excellent engine swap candidates.

However, GM has to meet federal standards for their total mix of vehicles so they have developed new ways to squeeze every possible mile out of a gallon of fuel.  Shutting off four cylinders of a V-8 is one of those ways.  GM first called this system, “displacement on demand” or DOD for short.  Now, for reasons unknown, they’ve changed the name to “active fuel management” or AFM.  These systems started showing up in Gen IV engines around 2005.

So, what’s not to like?  Eight cylinders when you want power, four cylinders for highway cruising sounds like a cool deal, right? 

You bet.  Until gearheads like us start swapping parts around with unintended consequences.

 Let me give you a brief tour of how DOD works:

1.  When cruise conditions are right, the engine control module (ECM) does three things to shut off four cylinders–1.) Turns off ignition coils, 2.) Turns off fuel injectors, 3.) Dis-engages valve lifters.

2.  Turning off coils and injectors is a simple electronic signal. 

3.  Turning off lifters is a little more complicated. The DOD lifters have two sections, one of which can slide inside the other.  Under normal load, the two sections are held together by small, spring-loaded pins.  When it’s time to shut off, extra oil pressure is sent through a special port.  The pressure overcomes the springs and the two lifter halves are now separate.  The lower half continues to follow the cam lobe while the upper half takes a vacation and just sits around doing nothing.

4.  The extra oil flow is regulated by four solenoid valves which are located under the valley cover.  And this is where our story takes a nasty turn.

First, let me tell you about my engine.  I bought a DOD 5.3 engine out of a 2005 GMC Envoy (same as Chevy Trailblazer) for several reasons:  It was low mileage, only 17,000.  It was light weight because it is all-aluminum.  It was inexpensive because there’s little demand yet.  Plus, I thought it would be cool to have the latest high-tech engine in a 20 year old BMW.  It would be the perfect engine swap:  Older, light weight car with a light weight, high horsepower engine.  German handling with American power.  Just perfect.

First thing I did to help the 5.3 fit into my BMW was to swap the Envoy SUV oil pan for a Pontiac GTO pan.  The GTO pan has a front sump and works like it was made for a BMW.

Here’s the nasty part.  What I hadn’t learned yet was that the SUV oil pan has a special oil pressure regulator built into the top of the oil filter ports.  I also didn’t understand that the solenoid valves up in the valley cover are not a typical “off-or-on” type valve.  They are a “on-a-little bit, then, on-a-lot” type valve.

So use your imagination.  If we send unregulated oil pressure to a “always-on-a-little-bit” valve and if enough gets by the valve to overcome the springs on the little pins inside the DOD lifters, and if the lifters disengage without the coils and injectors also disengaging…..well, I can tell you from personal experience, it ain’t pretty.

Here’s scenario for disaster:  The intake valve opens normally on one stroke, we take in a fuel/air mixture, both valves close, we compress and fire the mixture, we get a power stroke–OK so far?  Now, our exploded fuel/air mixture is expecting to find an open exhaust valve.  But let’s just say that this is moment when our exhaust lifter got a little extra oil pressure and decides to disengage and the exhaust valve stays closed.  Now we’re re-compressing our exploded mixture and our poor intake valve wants to open.  Talk about pressure.  It’s enough pressure to collapse and kill the lifter.

I killed one.  I replaced it.  It ain’t easy.  You have to pull the head.  It ain’t cheap.  The DOD lifter is $70 plus the head bolts are one-time use.  I replaced the lifter before understanding why it died.  So I killed two more.  Then the car sat for two months while I searched for the cause.

Next installment, I’ll tell you how I fixed the problem for good.  And I’ll give you my opinions about whether DOD or AFM engines are something to avoid like the plague or something we learn to embrace.

Wayne